Bold & Beautiful: To Groundhog or not to Groundhog

OVER TO DAISY, with thanks …
Okay. It seems everyone is too bashful to do a new thread, in spite of all their writing talent and word skills, so here I go, but as Judge Judy always says, this is “just hear say”.
It will be like driving blind. But maybe not since I have been given such good accounts of B&B events so far. I hope this is not like Chinese Whispers.
From what I can glean; Hope is as thick as Wyatt’s waistline. She has no sense that something fishy is going on, in spite of getting more clues than an episode of Midsomer Murders. Pheobeth will have an easy time sneaking out of the house when she’s a teenager. Liam is just as useless.
Quinn and Eric are still away as is Shauna the sheep. That’s just weird, unless there is a convention on in Florida for aging rich people and they all wanted to go. I have to question why Eric and Quinn would invite Shauna to stay if they don’t want a threesome.
Thomas has now become so evil that he is no longer Evil Thomas, but Dastardly Thomas. His villainy has earned him the right to the title. He will now be able to steal ice-cream from small children and forge their artwork.
As for Brooke and Ridge (ho hum), still kissing, but finding time to meddle in Thomas and Hope’s love life, and bat for opposite sides.
Steffy is still being Sensible Stay at home Mom Steffy. Well sensible for B&B. She did let her mother buy her a child. But other than that, sensible.
The interns, Zoe, Emma and Zander are all caught up in the intrigue of Phoebeth’s real parentage. It’s hard work being a Forrester intern/model. You have to multi-task. Charlie the security guard and Pam though, as useless as a comb in Woolif’s travel bag.
Anyhow. That’s what I have taken so far, in a nutshell, from Windsong, Dave and Sarah. I am sniffing the end of Groundhog may be near.
Thankyou to everyone for keeping Woolif and me informed, amused, entertained and even aghast during the last few weeks. We do really appreciate it. I’m glad we didn’t delay our flight until Hope worked out the truth.
Signing off,



  1. Of course, since this edition, poor Little Emma has seen been to the bottom of Hollywood Hill (my American geography is poor), in a metal casket. I hope this doesn’t mean episodes of accolades for her, like we had for Carolyn. It was hard to feel the grief.

  2. Thanks daisy.

    “Blessed are those that cannot see, yet still believe”

    Thomas has gone from forging children’s drawings and deleting photos from phones to murder since you’ve been gone. He ‘s devil’s spawn.

    Uncle Justin the lawyer can afford a real expensive , supersized casket for Emma. Emma left the building after losing control on Mulholland Drive. I hope Det. Sandwichez has a close eye on Thomas at the funeral. He’ll be there for the food.

  3. “Quinn and Eric are still away as is Shauna the sheep. That’s just weird, unless there is a convention on in Florida for aging rich people and they all wanted to go.”

    I’m starting to think that Quinn and Eric have joined a cult in Mexico, or something. Or maybe Shauna was really committed to her plan of renting out the Forrester Mansion as an AirBNB, so she planted some illicit substances in their luggage before they left on their trip, and we’ll be hearing from Quinn and Eric in about 8 to 10 years, with good behaviour.

    I still think Shauna is facedown in a ditch, somewhere, sleeping off an epic weekend bar crawl.

    Meanwhile, Zoey’s spent 6 months, now, having the same loud conversation about Phoebeth with multiple people. Despite the fact that two people have overheard this (and Thomas just killed one of them), Charlie and Pam continue to remain utterly oblivious. Damn it, Pamela. We’re not asking too much here. Earn your pay-cheque!

    When do we think that Ridge will notice that his son is evil incarnate? And where’s Taylor been, in all this? Off buying more babies from random people she meets in outdoor cafes?

  4. “Super sized coffin”.
    “There for the food”.
    Quality writing, both of you. 😁😁😁😁
    You should be writing for the show.

  5. Eric and Quinn come back to the hastily convened memorial service for little Emma. Everyone’s there , soaking up the gloomy atmosphere. The cockroach lurks near the fringes, having flashbacks to the murder. Of course, Skeletor , Flo and Zander round on him, intimating that they know Thomas has done a bad deed. Thomas reckons all’s well because the secret is safe. Donna has even covered up for the solemn occasion. Ad break

    Sally Spectra is back, looking fabulous and tries to patch things up with pious.Flubber. Tributes flow at Emma’s gig. Zander talks a load of simpering hogwash while the roach listens, clenching his jaw. Ad breaks.

  6. Justin informs us that the crack LA cops found something at the death scene that might explain the “accident”. (Thomas has dropped a can of spray tan?). Justin eyeballs the roach as he says this. It’s gloomy ….and uncomfortable around the table of wake refreshments. . There’ll be a lot of cakes and lemon bars left over. Tears flow.

    Cops know that Emma was texting Hope and on her way to her. There’s an avalanche of Emma flashbacks. “she was better that all of us”. Thomas bleats some hollow condolences to Justin.

    Sally keeps crawling to Flubber and breaks down. She blames the roach.

  7. Brooke and Hope start interrogating the roach, asking what he and Emma were arguing about . He produces the trademark jaw clench and we go the final ad break. Six minutes till Groundhog Day. It’ll probably be taken up with the memorial service. Texting a driving, it’ll get ya.

    We get a declaration of Flubber love from Sally then Thomas bullshits that he was arguing with Emma about her dancing at the next Forrester show. Hope is impressed. Boy , is she dumb. Thomas says “I’m here” , repeatedlyto console Hope. Curtain.

  8. Thanks, Dave.

    I am having to explain to Woolif. “Who is Clubber”. That’s Wipes because he has flesh like a pork belly, or Japanese businessman’s love dolly..
    Who carried the coffin? Did they bring in extra hands? I think Thomas chose a very convincing alibi. “No Little Emma. We don’t need an intern running the fashion show (like she did the last one, Windsong), and opening with a dance from the MacramΓ© Tellytubby and her back-up dancers”. He would have said, “No, Little Emma. Who even lets their interns run the show?”. See even I have fallen for it.
    I’m trying to imagine Sally looking good. Flame haired, in a horse harness strap mourning dress? Sounds like she might be trying to dress like Flo now. πŸ˜›
    Trivia.: was shopping yesterday and saw a blouse that was straight out of Brooke’s wardrobe.

    • There was no coffin. You’d think it was an essential.

      Sally’s hair is a lot longer and no black plastic outfit this time.

  9. Emma’s wake and memorial is held at Forrester Creations, which totally seems an appropriate place to do that. Quinn and Eric make their long-awaited return (just when you start enjoying your holiday, one of the interns dies. It’s so inconvenient), probably just to shovel the free food into Quinn’s purse. Donna covers up, but Steffy arrives in a black miniskirt that shows off more leg than a Christmas ham, bless her.

    Everyone goes on and on about what a great dancer Emma was (clearly they were looking at different flashbacks than the rest of us). Brooke and Hope ask Thomas what he was arguing with Emma about, right before she died, but Thomas feeds them a story about Emma wanting to dance at the next runway show (even watching, I was thinking, this is some high-quality bullshit, right here). Brooke is naturally cynical about Thomas anyway and seems to smell a rat, but she doesn’t push it. Justin says that the police found Emma’s phone and she was in the middle of texting Hope when she crashed. Once AGAIN, something strange happens regarding Hope, but Hope, being an idiot, doesn’t really think twice about it. My gosh, girlfriend.

    Meanwhile, Sally drops around to Wyatt’s place to yell at him for half an hour, for some reason. Those two are exhausting.

  10. Emma may be dead but no time like the present for Steffy to organise a beach party for Liam, Hope, Douglas and the roach, who’s admiring his muscled torso in the mirror and fantasizing what a great day this will be. Steffy’s in a hot bikini and Hope’s done up to the nines as well. Liam tries hard not to perve at Steffy’s bust which is pushed higher than Bill’s tower.

    The roach buys some drugs from a sleazy acquaintance. Brooke tries to talk Hope out of the party. Of course, Ridge wants her to go. Half time ad break. Viewers are in a world of pain at this point.

  11. A few days seem to have passed since Emma’s wake. The extended Forrester/Logan clan have decided on a beach picnic day! Thomas gets things off with some shirtless push-ups (soooo hot, yet soooo evil) and coaching Douglas to be as twee as possible to get Hope onside, which he does.

    Thomas also takes a delivery from a frighteningly-outdated stereotype named Vinnie, who gives him a small bag of pills. Thomas has already killed somebody, so dealing drugs almost seems too small-time for him. Either he’s going to roofie Hope, or he’s going to plant incriminating evidence in Liam’s bag. Vinnie also takes the chance to hit on Brooke, Thomas’s “hot step-mother” (my gosh, what is it with single men and Logan women? It is a pheremone thing?).

    Over at Steffy’s place, Liam’s had a hair-cut, and Steffy’s in a bikini that is literally dangerously-close to bursting. For a fashion business, why do none of these people seem to understand basic sizing? Anyway, we have the most awkward family reunion ever, with Hope looking frazzled as usual, Thomas being creepy, Liam snipping at Thomas at every chance, while Steffy yells at everyone to be nice to each other. Ah, the rich and famous Forresters aren’t that much different from everyone else, are they?

    Back at the ranch, I want to award Ridge points for trying to get Brooke to stop micro-managing Hope’s life, but at the same time, Ridge loses points for singing the praises of the son who killed somebody two days ago!

    Back at Steffy’s, and Hope greets baby Phoebe by accidentally calling her, “Beth”, and completely freaking out about it. Roll credits.

  12. Liam offers beers to the guests. The atmosphere is thick and shakes the roaches hand. Carbonated water is the topic in the discomfort. Awkward. Ad break. Thomas has some kidnapping or date rape planned, he’s been there before with Caroline. Little Douglas stands there with his cute Beatle haircut , just a pawn in the sick roaches game.

    Brooke and Ridge are fighting again. Ridge tries some romance but Brooke is up for interfering in Hope / Thomas. Ridge is frustrated and thinks Thomas is great.

    God, I haven’t got to Hope’s Freudian slip yet. Thanks Windsong. How’s the high heels Steffy’s wearing with her bikini?

    Liam tells the silver tongued roach to butt out of micro managing, too.

    The Freudian slip “Beth ” comes with orchestral thumps and the curtain falls.

    Houndgrog Day.

  13. Talking about silver tongues; bloody hell Dave and Windsong, you two have what…platinum pens. Both of you. I could not have enjoyed it more if I watched. You should be doing this for a living.
    Get that whacky, cranky, hilarious novel going. Or get a job on radio. You guys are so brilliant.

    But back to the show….this is the stickiest web of crimes I think B&B has ever had. Murder, kidnapping of the worst kind, fraud, drugs. And all because of Dr Hooks and Taylor. Helped along by a slew of idjuts. When will it end so we can just go back to sax music, lemon bars, purple push-ups and Brooke sleeping with one of sisters’ or daughters’ husbands. Oh that’s something Windsong might not know.
    A decade or so ago, Brooke was sneaking behind her daughter, Bridgitte’s back and sleeping with her husband, Deacon (an occcasionally recurring likeable bad boy). They had a baby; Hope. Don’t ask me how that relates Hope to Bridgitte.

    • I know about Brooke and Deacon and Bridgitte and Hope. I was thinking about that the other day, actually. If she slept with her daughter’s husband and had another child, there should be huge age-gaps between all the members of the family … alas, time moves different in soap-opera worlds.

  14. Who knows what havoc Thomas can wreak with those three Panadol he bought off that creep? ( who incidentally for future reference Ridge knows)

    Thanks for the kind words , daisy. We’ve been working harder than Forrester interns keeping you in the loop. I’m even listening to volume on and you had to be there to hear Hope lose her shit over “Phoebe”. All this time no one has bothered to send Hope to a psychiatrist, never mind the interfering, stalking that’s following her at every turn. Liam is no support at all.

    • “We’ve been working harder than Forrester interns keeping you in the loop.”

      Be fair though. A hard-working Forrester intern? I mean, that’s a pretty low bar to clear.


    • I’ve got more drugs than Thomas. It’s why Woolif and I can’t go on TAR. We’d need a little trolley for our “life support”. πŸ˜‚
      I could make Liam happy. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

      • Thomas would be lucky to knock out a groundhog with what he has. He’s supposed to be a hard working “designer”.

  15. Don’t forget I’m a granny and my πŸ’–πŸ’–πŸ’–πŸ’–πŸ’– Means I’d make you scones with blueberry jam and cream. πŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„πŸ˜„

  16. Oh, I just realised it was Friday yesterday, so we’re not going to get any resolution to Hope accidentally calling Phoebe, “Beth” until Monday evening.

    You have to think, though, that with the rate these people get married, divorced and swap bed partners, that accidentally calling out the wrong name at an inopportune moment wouldn’t exactly be an uncommon occurance, would it?

  17. Rather than show at the beach party, horny Wyatt asks Flo to move into his place. Of course, she doesn’t want to say that things are pretty swank at Eric’s. He tells her he’s dumped Sally.

    Hope apologises profusely for her calling Beth Beth. The roach, Liam and cleavage packing Steffy look on. It’s an awkward as hell prelude to a beach party . Ad break

    Out of the blue, returning Shauna interrrupts Wyatt going in for the kill. Wyatt announces his love and plans for domesticity.

  18. The only moderately-interesting things that happen today are Wyatt asking Flo to move in (talk about a down-grade from the mansion), Shauna suddenly existing again (dropping in to give Flo her blessing in terms of shacking up with Wyatt, and to announce that she’s heading back to Las Vegas to help Flo protect the Beth secret), and Liam finally drinking the poisoned margarita. I mean, we don’t know what Thomas put in it, but Thomas monologued, “Good bye Liam” as Liam starting taking sips, so I doubt it was a breath mint.

  19. Hope bleats a verbal sledgehammer at Liam ” I know Phoebe isn’t your biological child” while he tries to reassure her in the pantry. He might be divorced…but he’s 110% there for her.

    The Panadol loaded roach is in the sitting room with Steffy and the kids , looking evil. Ad break . Half time. Nada’s happened.

    Shauna pressures to Flo to keep her mouth shout. She’s done a good job of that so far.

    As if Liam needed drugging to render him unconscious.

    • “She’s done a good job of that so far.”

      She has, though, hasn’t she? My gosh, Flo isn’t just terrible at keeping secrets. She blabbed to Zoey who blabbed to Zander who then blabbed to Emma, and she’d also blabbed to Thomas who killed Emma to keep her quiet.

      Normally, trusting someone like Flo is a bad idea because she couldn’t keep a secret, but trusting Flo is actually getting people killed. That’s, like, a whole seperate level of *terrible* secret-keeping ability.

  20. The roach urges Hope to “move on ” from Liam, because he’s blissfully happy at Steffy’s , so she should move on , too. I take it Liam’s about to get Mickey Finned.
    Seven minutes till Groundhog Day. Hasta la vista , Liam. With that new haircut, he deserves to be drugged. The party atmosphere is maudlin. Liam always drinks beer, not Margaritas. He’s dumb.

  21. Ha ha. Just what we’ve been waiting for all weekend. Another groundhog, tougher than last night’s veal. Liam doesn’t need a mickey finn to be dazed and confused, nor to sleep with Stephy.
    I have yet to see the Forrester “youth” throw a fun party. They just stand aroung in bikinis with open flimsy beach coats. Am I right? Guys in American board shorts. And if Nicole was there, she would have been bobbing up and down, and calling it dancing and having a good time.
    I’d almost rather listen to Eric play the piano.

    • You got the beach party appareil right. Thomas in “bored” shorts. Any excuse to see orange,plastic flesh bought at the gym/plastic surgeon on this show. Eric’s the one being played at the moment.

      • Did Flubber have his blubber out, or did they call in the heavy artillery, Carter and Zander to heave beside Steffy’s cleavage?

        • Only folks at the maudlin beach party are Liam, Hope, Steffy and the roach…..and Liam won’t be the life of the party when those Margarita pills kick in. How will Liam act stupefied , so we get it? Maybe Douglas is there ….but who cares?

          Flo and Wyatt are planning on going but their sex life is getting in the way. Wyatt’s horny 24/7

  22. Steffy announces “the girls are out” . You can say that again. Liam suspects something about his doped drink. Roach bides it’s time.

    Flo tells sweet little lies to nosy Flubber about why Shauna the sheep hauled her arse to Vegas so quickly. She’ll move in. Malibu madness. California concubine. Sin by the sea. Gotta say , Flo looks good for this occasion and lies about the secret. In yer face, Flubber. Ad break.

  23. A short picnic on the beach and Steffi comes back in bronzed as I don’t know what. Sun must be extra strong over there.
    Thomas has drugged Liam. God he’s evil. The drug has made Liam stupid and now there is sex happening with Steffi, but will he remember when the effects wear off and will Steffi get pregnant. Sex has already happened with Wyatt and Flo – Lordie, he’s going to be so shocked when the truth about Beth comes out and Flo goes to prison. Must be another public holiday as no one is working – again. Steffi does very little for her $1mil pa!!

  24. Ever wonder what Liam is like on magic mushrooms? I’m sorry daisy, but you had to be here. Try to convey what happened , Windsong. I’m defeated. Thanks , Sara. You’re joking that sex is happening with Steffy/ Liam?. Not so maudlin now.
    Steffy’s as brown as you know what.

    Hope doesn’t appreciate Liam’s upbeat , in love with everyone mushroom mood and cracks another wobbly.

    • Hang on, I was walking my dog today, I’ll have to catch the replay on Tenplay. Gosh, the one episode I skip each week is always the one where something batshit insane happens.

    • I might be able to catch it on a dld. But right now it’s beach party Euro style and I’m distracted by a fat pair of French boobs wobbling about in front of me. Funny how it’s a family affair and young sons, old uncle and all your boobs.
      Sorry, back to reality.

  25. Speaking of dogs, in the mood for love Liam’s humping a cushion when Steffy goes up to the bedroom to “check” on him. Gleeful Thomas has encouraged Steffy to go to him. Steffy could take advantage of Liam here, he’s on another planet.

    Back at Flubber’s, Flo’s down to her undies. Unbelievable. Liam has six minutes to bonk Steffy.

  26. Thomas shovels a whole load of trash into Hope’s head about how Liam and Steffy love each other. Upstairs, Liam bleats a load of Bryan Adams lyrics to Steffy and soon Liam kisses her. He snaps out of it and asks himself what’s wrong with himself. Steffy has stripped down a little and reckons Liam is too hot to resist in his board shorts and shirt. (He looks like a ten yr old)She locks lips with him again and tells him nothing’s wrong. Old life of the party Liam brings home the bacon. Curtain. Yes, you gotta tenplay this ep, Windsong.

    • “Steffy has stripped down a little and reckons Liam is too hot to resist in his board shorts and shirt.”

      Liam’s barely on the top ten list of male “Bold” hotties, but at the moment, he looks like a homeless person who’s just spent a weekend at a music festival. Apparently Steffy has strange turn-on’s in men … but well, on this show, that’s par for the course, really.

      • Should Steffy have taken advantage of Liam, given he had the mushroom quiche?
        Windsong, Thomas plied Carolyn with alcohol when she had accidentally spaced out on Pam Pills. Then he assumed she gave permission for sex when what she had actually said was, ” zzzzzzzzzzz”.

        • Well, in Steffy’s defense, she had no idea that Thomas had drugged Liam. I could not even begin to imagine where that leaves them all, legally, but the episode ended with Steffy and Liam just making out on the bed, so there’s time to turn back.

          • I mean, Liam was just acting like an idiot, as usual.

            Hope was sure pissed off that he glossed over Catalina in his state of roach enabled bliss.

  27. So, we join the Forrester grandkids back from the most dismal day at the beach, like, ever. Steffy looks like she gave the kids to Liam and, instead, took a cab around to the tanning salon on the corner (Hope, meanwhile, looks pale as a ghost. I like to imagine that, wherever Hope goes, a storm cloud hovers about three feet above her head, and just kind of follows her around everywhere). And yes, the “The girls are out!” jokes write themselves. All I can say is, yes, they certainly are.

    Lord save us. Stoned-Liam is even more irritating than sober-Liam. Drugs are supposed to make you mellow, Liam, they’re not supposed to turn you into the Energiser Bunny’s love-child with Bobo the clown. I don’t blame Dave for giving up on this tonight. And c’mon Thomas. Vehicular manslaughter isn’t beyond you, but your plan to get rid of Liam involved nothing more than industrial-strength viagra? You’re slipping, you dastardly bastard.

    The episode ends with Liam and Steffy passionately making out on Liam’s bed. Steffy was an active participant, but Liam still seems high as a kite.

    Meanwhile, over in Wyatt’s sex shack, Wyatt is saying all the lovely awesome things to Flo that he said to Sally before they broke up. Maybe it’s because I haven’t watched as long as everyone else, but Wyatt’s only storylines seem to be watching him fall in lust with pretty girls. Whoever the girl, he certainly doesn’t need any of those pills from Thomas’s friend.

  28. Yes, the girls are out. Would it be rude of me to take a pic of the fat French boobs on the. beach next to me? I could pretend I was shooting Woolif’s tummy. I guess you might have noticed it growing in my holiday snaps. Uluru.

    But back to Wipes aka Flubber. He has been delegated to the role of playboy, but it used to be a Flubbet, Hope, Liam love tragedy, before it was a Flubber, Steffy Liam love triangle.
    Flubber was always wearing Liam’s old girlfriend.

  29. Liam can’t remember that he and flaxen haired, purring Steffy did the deed.

    Brooke nosies Hope about the beach party. Stupid Hope annulled the marriage and can’t believe Liam isn’t all over him like a cheap suit. Hope suspects that something was different about Liam. He had some disco biscuits, Hope and was the life of the party.

    “The girls are up!” today.

    The roach has a wedding rock for Hope and he’ll use little innocent cherub Douglas to suck her into accepting it. Ad break.

    Liam quizzes Steffy about what happened. Liam decides he has to go see Hope. He’s back to normal, folks.

    Brooke and Hope keep the chin wagging about Liam. Brooke starts bashing Thomas and white anting his plans. Thomas is busy brainwashing little Douglas about the facts of life. Little Douglas will be bait.

    Icy meeting between Liam and Hope. He profusely apologises. Hope’s as dirty as . Ad break . Half time.

    • Paragraph 2, “Liam isn’t all over her like a cheap suit” it should be . The FOUR MINUTE ad break let me check my “work”

      Thomas goes to Steffy’s to do some more dirty work. He checks if Steffy’s bed’s been slept in and starts the interrogating.

      Over at Hope’s house of pain, Liam ‘s reflects on last night and lies that he’s “done things he knows he wouldn’t have done”…etc and admits to bonking Steffy. The harrowing music takes us to an ad break.

  30. Yeah, I missed the first 3/4 of the episode, but I caught the scene where Liam has obviously spent the night rutting with Steffy like horny minks, and he immediately rushes off to tell his ex. Which is totally something that normal people do.

    Hope spent so long pushing Liam away and now seems annoyed and sad that Liam got together with someone else. But I think that’s because Hope is a moron.

    • Liam has to rush and tell Hope in case she finds out the secret that he slept with Steffy. Ha ha that wouldn’t happen until 6 interns, 3 family members and dt Sandwiches and Officer Nibbles (salute Top Cat) know about it first.

        • Daisy will be back before “the secret” is out. I reckon three months…but who’s counting when it’s wall to wall groundhogs?

          • And provided Thomas keeps whittling down the cast members who find out (nothing says, “We’re still grieving our intern who was a valued member of the company and our family” like “who wants to drink margaritas and go to the beach?”), this could last for years.

  31. Hope is acting affronted by Liam’s deed and she starts crying again. Liam has not heard that a gentleman never tells.No, he gushes like broken sewer pipe about the deed to Hope.Then she falls on her sword , mea culpa style. Such a martyr. She knows she can move on to the roach and his world of sleaze. Windsong is right. Hope is a moron.

    Thomas wheedles the night of amore vital details out of Steffy then shits himself when he knows Liam has gone to see Hope. He used the old”lost my phone ” ruse to distract Steffy while he checks her bed. Steffy knows Thomas is happy about what happened.

    It’s a groundhog. Curtain.

  32. Oh no. I just had a flash image of the Roach sniffing Steffy:s sheets. No pawn is too sacred for the Roach’s evil machinations. Not his sister, nor his son, nor the object of his desire. Just like any Roach, he will slip through a crack when discovered. Even with murder on his CV.

    • The roach merely scurried into the bedroom noted that Steffy’s bed hadn’t been slept in and assumed Steffy and Liam were at it like rabbits elsewhere. The state Liam was in , he would have done it in a toilet.

  33. Another nothing episode where nothing of consequence seems to happen.

    Proving that the Forresters have serious boundary issues, the ep begins with Thomas congratulating Steffy on hooking up with Liam the night before. Thomas leaves just as Ridge drops around to see his grand-daughters, and Steffy relays the story onto him — because that’s totally something you would immediately tell your father. Steffy lampshades this, at one point (“I’m not having this conversation with you!”) but immediately continues to have this conversation with him. Does nobody in this world have a hobby? No, because somebody hooks up with their ex-boyfriend, and five minutes later, it’s in the family newsletter.

    Over at Hope’s, Liam and Hope have the exact same tortured conversation about Beth and annulling their marriage, that they’ve had about 500 times before. Hope cries a lot. Liam shouts and gets sad. I’m almost convinced that the show’s editors just copy-and-paste the exact same scene, and put it into every two or three episodes, just to pad out the run-time. The one bright spot was Liam actually emoting about Thomas (“He IS an evil villain!” Exact quote. That is remarkable genre awareness, Liam).

    Meanwhile, Thomas might as well have a flashing neon sign hanging over his head, blinking, “Evil”, but yet nobody thinks twice about it. Sigh.

    • Thanks. My first comment got swallowed into spam , I presume

      It was about Steffy blabbing about her sex life and Hope tearing strips off Liam.

      We miss daisy’s screen shots. How can one describe the look of hatred that Liam manages to conjure to shoot at the roach, when the roach orders him to get out of Hope’s house? There’s the sinister cello muzak that highlights the roaches work.

      • At least angry Hope is moderately more interesting than sad Hope.

        Gosh, I cannot be the only person in the world who’s just about had his fill of sad Hope. You wanted your husband to leave you, Hope, what did you think was going to happen?!

        • Careful what you ask for , Hope. ” Go to Steffy….just don’t shag her” That’s gonna work on this show, alright. At least Ridge was wised up,philosophising that it was only a matter of time. Actually, it was a bit slow for, Beverley Hills.

          Hope, Thomas, and Ridge already know about the beach party sex.

          Ridge visits Steffy , but doesn’t see the kids or bring gifts.

          Tomorrow, Il Giardino’s will be abuzz with the sordid details.

  34. Thomas is an “evil bad guy” according to Liam. Apologies to all the bad guys who aren’t evil.

    Liam will “always love” Hope ( except when his drink has been spiked). Pass the tissues, then.

    Curtain. Groundhog City. Is Steffy drugging those babies to keep them asleep?

  35. “Copy and paste”. πŸ˜‚

    Oh, I thought that when Hope had been whining, “Go be with Steffy”, that sex might have been implied. Or inferred. I must Google that one day.
    (I must have missed that class).
    If Hope’s idea of “Go be with Steffy”, just meant changing nappies, (the babies’ not Steffy’s), then why the annulment?
    Which brings me to the question of, “How are they able to annul their marriages all the time”? I thought you had to have not consumated, or other very extenuating circumstances.

    • Liam, actually, did ask Hope the question, today, that probably ninety-percent of the audience have been asking themselves. “Why does losing Beth mean that we have to lose each other?!?” I’m not sure whether Hope answered, or just cried some more. She’s good at that.

  36. Hope seems to think that she can be with Thomas without sex too. Maybe Thomas can promise young Douglas that Hope will get a bunk in his room.

  37. So, at least that’s one mystery solved. It’s Independance Day, in America, ergo the Forresters all have a few days off to go to the beach, lounge around the pool and sleep with their step-siblings and in-laws.

    Thomas continues to leave his shirts in the cupboard, while Hope continues to let herself be obviously manipulated by Thomas with frightening ease. You gotta wonder, is Hope this gullible normally? Is she just a sucker for any dark-haired guy with a smouldering gaze and perky nipples? How many phone and email scams does she fall for, on a day-to-day basis? “Sorry, guys, but he swore he was a genuine Nigerian prince!”

    While the baby girls continue sleeping (I’d be getting those kids checked for narcolepsy. I mean, it’s kind of worrying), Liam and Steffy have another conversation about how Thomas is intense and possibly creepy, while Thomas spends the back half of the episode coaching Douglas into asking Hope to marry his father. He might be evil, but it is genuinely disturbing watching Thomas coaching Douglas into stalking Hope by proxy, and I feel like the show isn’t giving that *enough* weight.

    Regardless, Douglas is really irritating and I can’t stand that kid.

    The episode ends with everyone watching the fireworks. Steffy and Liam are sitting with the girls, and the writers remind us how they don’t know what the word “subtlety” means when Steffy tells Liam that, “Beth must be on your mind.” Actually, Steffy, currently, Beth is sitting on his knee.

    Over at the cabin, Hope and Thomas are watching the fireworks when Douglas launches into a (coached) speech about how happy Hope makes him, and would she marry his daddy and become his new mommy, complete with gigantic diamond engagement ring? Thomas feigns ignorance (because most toddlers carry around diamond rings that could sink a battleship in their pocket) while Hope looks horrified. End credits.

    My gosh, Hope. He is EVIL. Figure it out already.

    • Brooke is now in on the goss that Liam and Steffy ” made love”~ maybe one of them did. The other’s lights were burning bright, but no one was home. There’ll be more meddling from Brooke and Ridge.

      Topless Thomas keeps up the emotional abuse on Douglas and Hope.

    • Don’t worry Windsong. By the time I return, Douglas will be a frightengly but understandably disturbed 15 year old…….with a really bad Oedipus complex. After all who is Hope actually going to be walking down the aisle in Eric’s loungeroom with.

  38. Hope has always been a bit stupid with her devotion to Loverboy Liam, but she had her wits about her enough to connive and steal him from Steffy when he and Steffy had a rough patch (snigger….cue jokes about rough patche’s πŸ˜›) But lately Hope has sunk so low that she was probably eligible for a government grant at school.

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